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need a little help
we run the single wing offense and last year i had a issue with the snaps. its all shotgun and we have two running backs spliting the center and i was wondering if anyone has any ideas? i tryed to have him slap his thigh and angle his feet. just wanna know if anyone has any new ideas for me.
thanks,
coack kenny
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Permalink Reply by Todd Reeves on -
There is an interesting alternative snap on YouTube by Ted Seay. I've never used it because I've always had a good snapper that could always get it done. Worth a look anyway. Here's the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtboAyXHl_k
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Permalink Reply by Coach Scott on -
Question when he is stepping to the right or left is the ball floating the opposite direction? If so just have your center work on snapping and stepping at the same time. I tell my center don't turn your wrist as you snap the ball, act like your wrist and hand is one long bone keep it stiff. For reasons I can't explained that fixed our issues, the thing had to work on with my center is snapping and stepping at the same time, best way to fix this is never allow your center to snap with out getting two steps in the ground, not one but two steps.
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Permalink Reply by Joe Schmitz on
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The solution does depend on the problem your center is having. If he is inconsistent with his snap and it is different every time, the solution is simply to get repetitions. Inconsistency means that the center's movement is inconsistent. Are you trying to snap on an angle to the back, or down the middle and having the back cross the center to get the snap? This will change the arm motion with your center.
In general, what I do with all of my center's is to focus on arm slot. I have them snap without stepping to start just working on finding the proper placement with the ball. It may also be good to have the player snap and hold his hand back every time without stepping. This will help it to become natural to follow through. We have a guy who has been snapping for some time and becomes inconsistent because he doesn't follow through and short arms some snaps. Once the snaps are somewhat consistent, I line up five balls and have them snap it as fast as possible. This just prevents them from thinking about the snap and forces them to just react. This is similiar to having them do a math problem when they snap. the big thing is for the snap to become a natural act.
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Permalink Reply by kenny kaufmann on
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thanks coach, yeah our offense have 3 runningbacks the snap could go to, a slight angle to the left and right then the third snap is a tricky one. the center kinda has to get the ball to go behind the guard for like a counter or trap. im going to try to use your method. i played center in high school but i was a under center guy.
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Permalink Reply by o_line_coach on -
A few things for you. First coach Scott's comments are pretty accurate. Using the arm without corking the wrist will help your center get a ball that doesn't "float" to the QB-HB who you give the ball to. The key, without a doubt, is repetition. From my experience that solves a lot of things because each snapper gets to adopt a slightly different motion according to his own physique.
For the shotgun to one of the 3 RB's you can temporarily solve your problem by having them move laterally a bit right after snap to get to the ball, this will help your center not exagerate his move while he gets enough reps under in belt to be more accurate.
For the tricky snap (we use this one) one word comes to mind...and yes it is repetition. On that one, your center will have to cork his wrist in order to direct the ball behind your guard. I solved an inconsistency issue we had with that snap by having both our centers find a sport in the inside of their thighs that they would hit with their forearm everytime they "trick snap" the ball. I suggest that they have a guard by their side everytime you practive that snap. If not, they cork their wrist too much and then you get in real playing situations and the ball hits the guards big butt!
Hope this helps.
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Permalink Reply by kenny kaufmann on
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its just haed because at out league is power football...we dont have speed or that one kid that takes it to the house. we have to control the clock and ground and pound. we just havent had a good center the past 2 years and it has hurt our team. to me winning comes 2nd...im here to twach these kids respect,teamwork,and to keep them off the streets. i tryed to have my offensive line drive block and they wouldnt stay low or fire of the ball or even hold there blocks so i got a tape from a guy that runs the singlewing in texas and has won like 90% of his games with the wing down block and it kinda worked because if formed a wall that the back could run for 6-7 yeards a pop.
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Permalink Reply by Marcos Hoff on -
Kenny
I'm a big fan of single wing. I ran an 8-man version of it this spring.
Is your center slow or just thinks about it too much? If so, I'd try a different center.
Is he in a 3 point stance? Too much weight on his hands?
Is he gripping the laces with his fingers?
You guys running the "Sainted Six" to start?
Marcos
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Permalink Reply by allejandro santana on
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well .. my issue has been most of the centers we get are mostly guys who eather never snap in the gun or they never played center a good thing to do is simple take a pice of flat metal or wood and tape there arm around two pices of it and just have them snap and step under a chute over and over and over and etc then when pratice comes when they r just sitting around or doing 7 on 7 have him pratice this over and over its the best way.. (i had the same problem as a player my o-line coach was old school from the bayou lol) or if tht doesnt work another way is to move his head I bet when hes snaping hes doing it from the middle of his stance try putting it to one side it will help out alot
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